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M&A Science, hosted by Kison Patel (Founder & CEO of DealRoom), is your go-to podcast for mastering the art of mergers and acquisitions. Each week, Kison and his expert guests from leading brands like Xerox, FastLap, and Cisco dig deep into real-world M&A strategies, offering actionable insights to optimize your M&A practice. Whether you're an experienced practitioner or new to the field, M&A Science provides practical advice on key topics like sourcing, due diligence, integration, divestitures, and more. With over 300 episodes, this podcast is the premier thought leadership resource designed to streamline your deal-making process. Start listening today and visit mascience.com/podcast to access over 400 episodes. Brought to you by DealRoom, the leading M&A optimization platform used by the best M&A teams around the world
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Aug 18, 2025

Xavier Gury, Founding Partner at Wind

Xavier Gury, founding partner at Wind venture capital firm, brings a unique triple perspective to M&A: serial entrepreneur, acquisition target, and now investor. In this episode, Xavier unpacks the critical lessons from his three successful exits, including one transformative deal with Publicis, where he structured a performance-based earnout that prioritized terms over upfront valuation.

The conversation reveals why 90% of the deal value came through earnout performance, how to align teams during integration, and the strategic mistakes buyers make when acquiring founder-led companies. M&A professionals will learn practical frameworks for structuring deals that actually work post-close.

Things You'll Learn

  • Why deal terms matter more than valuation – and how Xavier structured an earnout where only 10% was paid upfront
  • The "yin yang" principle for balanced M&A deals that create value for both buyer and seller
  • How to incentivize key employees during earnout periods to ensure alignment and execution success

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Episode Chapters

[00:02:00] Xavier's unconventional path from teaching AltaVista to founding startups

[00:08:30] How a 10-person company acquired a 100-person competitor during market consolidation

[00:14:00] Timing the Publicis Exit – Why selling to the "worst" digital player created the biggest value creation opportunity

[00:18:00] How market timing generated 5x vs 12x EBITDA multiples from different buyer types

[00:21:30] Breaking down the deal where upfront payment was only 10% of total value

[00:26:00] The equity strategy that made earnout management effortless

[00:31:00] The Yin Yang M&A Principle – Why balanced deals create 1+1=3 value instead of destroying it

[00:38:00] How VCs navigate the schizophrenic nature of investment lifecycle

[00:43:00] Terms vs Valuation Deep Dive

[00:47:00] The $50 Billion Mistake 


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