Javier Enrile, Managing Director of M&A at TIAA
In this episode, he breaks down the art and science of thinking like a strategic buyer—from building proprietary deal pipelines through relationship-first sourcing to using sophisticated valuation techniques that separate intrinsic value from market noise. Javier reveals why patient relationship building beats aggressive auction processes, how to structure deals that protect against downside risk, and the critical integration between valuation, diligence, and deal structuring that separates successful acquirers from the rest.
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Episode Timestamps:
[00:02:30] From Sell-Side to Buy-Side – Why strategic M&A combines PE rigor with strategic thinking
[00:08:00] Strategy Before Deals – The three-step framework for aligning inorganic growth with business strategy
[00:12:00] Building Proprietary Pipeline – Relationship-first sourcing and managing 10-20 active targets effectively [00:20:30] Valuation Methodology Deep Dive – DCF vs. comps and why intrinsic value drives better decisions
[00:25:00] Cross-Border Valuation Complexity – Modeling currency risk and geopolitical premiums in international deals
[00:29:00] Deal Structuring for Risk Management – Priority returns, earnouts, and protecting against downside scenarios
[00:39:30] The Integration Feedback Loop – How valuation, diligence, and integration planning inform each other
[00:47:00] When Theory Meets Reality – A negotiation story about rational assumptions and irrational responses
Xavier Gury, Founding Partner at Wind
Xavier Gury, founding partner at Wind venture capital firm, brings a unique triple perspective to M&A: serial entrepreneur, acquisition target, and now investor. In this episode, Xavier unpacks the critical lessons from his three successful exits, including one transformative deal with Publicis, where he structured a performance-based earnout that prioritized terms over upfront valuation.
The conversation reveals why 90% of the deal value came through earnout performance, how to align teams during integration, and the strategic mistakes buyers make when acquiring founder-led companies. M&A professionals will learn practical frameworks for structuring deals that actually work post-close.
Things You'll Learn
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Today’s episode of the M&A Science Podcast is brought to you by Grata!
Grata is the leading private market dealmaking platform. With its best-in-class AI workflows and investment-grade data, Grata helps investors, advisors, and strategic acquirers effortlessly discover, research, and connect with potential targets — all in one sleek, user-friendly interface.
Visit grata.com to learn more.
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[00:02:00] Xavier's unconventional path from teaching AltaVista to founding startups
[00:08:30] How a 10-person company acquired a 100-person competitor during market consolidation
[00:14:00] Timing the Publicis Exit – Why selling to the "worst" digital player created the biggest value creation opportunity
[00:18:00] How market timing generated 5x vs 12x EBITDA multiples from different buyer types
[00:21:30] Breaking down the deal where upfront payment was only 10% of total value
[00:26:00] The equity strategy that made earnout management effortless
[00:31:00] The Yin Yang M&A Principle – Why balanced deals create 1+1=3 value instead of destroying it
[00:38:00] How VCs navigate the schizophrenic nature of investment lifecycle
[00:43:00] Terms vs Valuation Deep Dive
[00:47:00] The $50 Billion Mistake
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Arash Attar-Rezvani - M&A Partner, Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP
In part two of this masterclass conversation, Arash Attar-Rezvani gets into the execution challenges that separate successful M&A practitioners from the rest. From deconstructing French labor consultation myths to revealing how AI will reshape legal advisory models, this segment delivers actionable frameworks for advanced deal execution.
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[00:33:00] French Labor Law Reality – Why employment consultation is easier than American buyers think
[00:36:00] Aggressive Cost Synergy Planning – How to structure 40% workforce reductions within European frameworks
[00:40:00] Cross-Cultural Negotiation Mastery – Reading the room and adapting communication styles for French business culture
[00:47:00] Defining High-Stakes Transactions – Why people's livelihoods matter more than dollar amounts in deal significance
[00:51:30] First-of-Kind Deal Innovation – Creating the Luxembourg/Hong Kong take-private structure when no legal path existed
[00:55:30] AI's Impact on Legal Advisory – How automation will force fee model evolution and reshape junior lawyer training
[01:01:30] Deal Structure Evolution – From SPACs boom-bust to emerging PE club deals and earnout complications
[01:06:30] Partnership Career Strategy – Why obsessing over partnership tracks derails early career development
[01:10:00] Integrity Under Pressure – Handling government interference and corruption while maintaining client relationships
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Arash Attar-Rezvani, M&A Partner at Skadden based in Paris, brings over two decades of cross-border M&A strategy experience to this in-depth conversation. From billion-dollar telecom deals across Latin America to luxury brand acquisitions spanning multiple jurisdictions, Arash reveals the hidden complexities that make international M&A uniquely challenging. M&A professionals will learn how to structure deals across incompatible legal systems, navigate emerging regulatory landscapes, and build the trust essential for successful cross-border transactions.
Things you will learn:
How to identify and manage multiple antitrust and national security clearances across jurisdictions with varying sophistication levels
Why smaller transactions often require more innovation than billion-dollar deals, and how to build structures when no legal playbook exists
The psychology behind cross-border deal-making and why trust trumps even the most ironclad contracts
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Episode Chapters
[00:02:30] International Legal Foundation – Arash's multicultural background and path to cross-border M&A expertise
[00:06:00] Deal Size vs. Complexity – Why Smaller Founder-Led Acquisitions Present Unique Structural Challenges
[00:14:30] Strategic M&A Motivations – The full spectrum of acquisition rationales from geography to technology
[00:18:30] Building Long-Term Client Relationships – The trusted advisor model and its impact on deal success
[00:21:00] Cross-Border Regulatory Landscape – GDPR, Cloud Act, and the proliferation of national security reviews
[00:28:00] Managing Multiple Jurisdictions – How to prevent small markets from derailing global transactions
[00:33:00] French M&A Environment – Labor consultation requirements and overcoming cultural prejudices
[00:47:00] High-Stakes Deal Philosophy – Why people, not money, define truly consequential transactions
[00:51:30] Creative Deal Innovation – The first-of-its-kind Luxottica take-private structure across Luxembourg and Hong Kong
[00:57:30] AI's Impact on Legal Services – How technology will reshape M&A advisory and fee structures
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