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M&A Science, hosted by Kison Patel (Founder & CEO of DealRoom), is your go-to podcast for mastering the art of mergers and acquisitions. Each week, Kison and his expert guests from leading brands like Xerox, FastLap, and Cisco dig deep into real-world M&A strategies, offering actionable insights to optimize your M&A practice. Whether you're an experienced practitioner or new to the field, M&A Science provides practical advice on key topics like sourcing, due diligence, integration, divestitures, and more. With over 300 episodes, this podcast is the premier thought leadership resource designed to streamline your deal-making process. Start listening today and visit mascience.com/podcast to access over 300 episodes. Brought to you by DealRoom, the leading M&A optimization platform used by the best M&A teams around the world
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Dec 25, 2023

Aaron Whiting, Chief of Staff at Crownpeak

Value creation in any acquisition relies heavily on how well the M&A integration goes. By focusing on integration, buyers can increase their chances of success in obtaining and realizing their intended synergies. But how well can it go if the company’s integration lead is a first-timer? 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Learn the basics of M&A integration execution, with Aaron Whiting, Chief of Staff at Crownpeak.

You will learn:

  • How to coach a first-time integration leader

  • Getting ready for day one

  • Kickoff meeting strategies

  • Challenges during integration

  • Setting alignment for kickoff meetings

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. 

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit  www.mascience.com/academy. 

Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net.

FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com

Episode Bookmark

00:00 Intro
05:09 Coaching an integration lead
06:33 Involving the Integration Lead
12:42 Integration on Day one
17:49 Getting ready for Day one
22:31 M&A teams to pull in for integration
25:41 Kickoff meeting strategies
31:12 Maintaining regular cadence for good progress
35:53 Umbrella track
37:47 How to track integration activities
42:38 Challenges during integration
47:55 Mechanical things that could go wrong during integration
52:59 Setting alignment for kickoff meetings
56:26 What success looks like through stories
01:01:50 How to know when the integration is complete
01:03:42 Advice for first timers
01:07:48 Craziest thing in M&A

Dec 20, 2023

ChatGPT Voice, powered by OpenAI

This past year, AI has revolutionized the way we do things, and ChatGPT has been a big part of that. Created by OpenAI, ChatGPT can understand and use language like a human, making it extremely useful in a lot of different areas. And now, we can actually talk to it. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we are introducing our first-ever ChatGPT interview. We are going to learn its insights on AI’s impact on the world of M&A. 

You will learn more about:

  • AI’s role in deal sourcing

  • Streamlining due diligence using AI

  • Future of M&A

  • Limitations of AI

  • ChatGPT’s advice on integrating AI into M&A

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. 

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit  www.mascience.com/academy. 

Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net.

FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

03:06 Revolutionizing M&A with AI

03:53 AI’s role in Deal sourcing

08:08 AI’s role in deal valuation process

12:41 Limitations of ChatGPT

14:05 Streamlining due diligence

18:00 AI’s impact on M&A integration

22:10 Case Study: Daimler Chrysler merger

25:15 Case Study: Amazon acquiring Whole Foods

28:14 Future of M&A

30:23 DealRoom

32:40 How to incorporate AI into DealRoom

35:57 Positive business outcomes using DealRoom

37:41 Ethical Considerations Using AI

39:28 Limitations of AI

41:04 Advice on integrating AI into M&A

43:10 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Dec 18, 2023

Dr. Karl-Michael Popp, Senior Director, Corporate Development at SAP (FRA: SAP)

In today's digital era, the pervasive influence of technology is felt in every facet of business, and Mergers and Acquisitions (M&A) are no different. The arrival of innovation and automation will soon make their way to the industry, streamlining processes that could bolster productivity and facilitate smoother post-merger integration. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Dr. Karl Michael Popp, Senior Director, Corporate Development at SAP, discusses in detail automation in M&A.

Things you will learn:

  • Measuring Strategy during automation

  • Strategic Fit Analysis

  • Identifying Targets

  • Quantifying culture in M&A

  • Impact of new emerging technologies in M&A

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. 

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit  www.mascience.com/academy. 

Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net. 

FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com 

Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

07:10 Measuring Strategy

10:00 Structuring Strategies

13:53 Quantifying Metadata

16:24 Breaking it down into details to complete the strategy

18:49 Strategic Fit Analysis

20:06 Identifying Targets

22:40 Cascading of Strategy

25:33 Changing the strategy

27:11 Learning from the target company

31:18 Quantifying culture in M&A

32:47 Impact of new emerging technologies in M&A

34:50 Automation in M&A

39:27 The late evolution of M&A

40:51 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Dec 11, 2023

Anthony Krueger, Associate at Morrison & Foerster LLP

M&A comes in varying sizes. However, there’s a common misconception that smaller deals are easier to execute than larger ones. The truth is, that smaller deals come with their own unique set of challenges that could possibly make them even harder to do. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Anthony Krueger, Associate at Morrison & Foerster LLP, debunks this myth and discusses how to execute smaller deals and negotiate key legal provisions.

You will learn:

•The complexities of smaller deals

•Executing earnouts

•Reps and warranties insurance for smaller deals

•Working capital adjustments and its effect on smaller deals

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

04:36 Smaller deals vs bigger deals

06:35 Complexities of smaller deals

06:52 Other layers of complexities

10:10 Earnouts

18:03 Reps and warranties

24:08 Fundamental vs General Reps and Warranties

25:35 Indemnities

28:40 Disclosure schedules

32:34 Caps and Baskets

35:52 Carve-out

36:44 Working capital adjustments

40:47 Deferred revenue

42:01 Accrued bonuses and vacations

44:12 Advice to those doing small deals

45:12 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Dec 4, 2023

Rajive Dhar, VP, Head of Corporate Development at NetApp (NASDAQ: NTAP)

For first-time acquirers, M&A can be challenging, as it comes with strenuous processes with many complexities that can turn the dream into a nightmare. However, with proper guidance, acquirers can have a smooth transaction and an amicable negotiation. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast. We discuss the intricacies of M&A from start to finish with Rajive Dhar, VP, Head of Corporate Development at NetApp, to help us navigate our first deal.

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. 

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy. 

Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net

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Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

05:58 Different types of M&A

09:49 Corporate Strategy for M&A

12:37 Dealing with new customers

14:49 Acquiring competitors 

17:13 Target screening

22:19 Opening up conversations with the target company

23:55 Initial Due Diligence

25:59 Diligence list

30:17 Sunsetting competitors product

33:02 Assessing culture

34:52 Putting an LOI together

39:58 Negotiating deal structure

46:41 Earnouts

55:44 Keeping relationships

1:00:13 Best advice for practitioners

 

Nov 27, 2023

Jim Ackerman, recent Vice President of Corporate Development at Flex; Steve Coghlan, Semi-recent Vice President of Corporate Development at Flex.

Every deal is different, which means each and everyone will present unique challenges that teams have to overcome. Especially when dealing with smaller companies. There is no such thing as a perfect deal. However, with the right mindset and approach, deals can still close and bring value to both parties involved. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Jim Ackerman, recent Vice President of Corporate Development at Flex, and Steve Coghlan, former Vice President of Corporate Development at Flex, discuss their experiences on M&A surprises and horror stories.

This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom, the fastest virtual data room used to get deals done. Leave the pay-per-page world behind by going to www.firmroom.com

Episode Bookmarks

00:00 Intro

05:06 Sourcing deals

08:24 Key things to ask during the first meeting

11:49 How to get exclusivity

15:01 How the governance works

16:41 Due diligence red flags

17:21 Cultural integration

19:46 Working with the board

23:54 Best way to pitch a deal to the board

24:34 Stakeholder management in the board

25:40 Managing M&A surprises

29:30 Good M&A Surprises

34:37 Accounting surprises

36:30 Private deal surprises

40:39 IT surprises

42:33 Surprises between signing and closing

45:38 How to mitigate risks and surprises

46:13 What trap currency is

48:04 Integration surprises

50:40 Mitigating surprises from integration

54:25 Instilling clear and purposeful communication

55:23 Hardest step to do in M&A

56:10 Worst deal ever done

59:11 Best advice

1:00:12 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Nov 20, 2023

Nicole Markowski, Manager and Corporate Development at Wipfli LLP

More than the numbers, relationships can make or break a deal. Regardless of the deal rationale, strong, trusting connections between parties can lead to smoother negotiations, clearer communication, and a greater likelihood of mutual satisfaction in the end result. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Nicole Markowski, Manager and Corporate Development at Wipfli LLP, delves into the importance of cultivating positive relationships to drive M&A success.

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. 

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy. 

Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net.

FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com

Episode Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

07:04 The importance of relationships in M&A

09:25 Key people to build relationships with

15:55 How to foster and develop relationships

23:03 How to engage with key people

25:27 Approach to build relationships

28:30 People assignment for developing relationships

30:47 Delegating tasks in building relationships

34:22 Key acquired company people to build relationships with

36:31 Handling resistant groups

39:25 People problems and how to address them

45:57 Advice to first-time practitioners

47:45 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Nov 13, 2023

Samuel Wilson, Chief Executive Officer at 8x8 (NASDAQ: EGHT)

In the grand scheme of things, every M&A must make financial sense. Whether it’s cutting cost, increasing revenue, or achieving operational efficiencies, it all boils down to the numbers. After all, every company’s main goal is to grow and increase profit for its shareholders. It is why the Chief Financial Officers play an integral role in M&A. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we will explore M&A from a CFO’s perspective, featuring Samuel Wilson, Chief Executive Officer at 8x8.

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This episode is sponsored by the DealRoom and FirmRoom. 

Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net

FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to  www.firmroom.com.

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

07:55 The Role of CFO

11:39 Risk Management

14:39 Integration aspect

15:54 Alignment on assumptions

18:14 Managing people

19:28 Best integration practices

21:25 Working with the CEO

22:52 Walking away from a deal

27:10 Getting involved in the deal

29:50 Tying the Strategy

33:36 Integration Budgeting

39:43 Working with corporate development

40:54 Advice for first time acquirers

44:04 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Nov 6, 2023

David Barnes, Chief Financial Officer at Trimble Inc. (NASDAQ:TRMB)

Chief Financial Officers (CFOs) play a pivotal role in shaping the destiny of strategic ventures. Beyond their traditional financial responsibilities, these financial architects hold the key to unlocking the full potential of mergers and acquisitions. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we explore M&A from a CFO’s perspective with David Barnes, Chief Financial Officer at Trimble Inc.

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. 

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit mascience.com/academy. 

Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at dealroom.net.

FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to firmroom.com.

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

04:29 The Role of CFO

05:14 How the CFO’s roles differs from the CEO

06:24 Decision-making process and approvals workflow

09:43 Communicating opportunities

11:15 Prioritization

14:18 Balancing the allocation of budgets

16:42 How equity compensation works

18:14 How aligned investment analysts are when evaluating a company

20:08 Forecasting deals

22:53 Priorities when looking at deals

26:49 Balancing priorities when structuring earnouts

28:31 Understanding a company’s culture

31:08 Integration from a CFO’s perspective

33:49 How the speed of integration impacts value realization

37:05 Biggest lessons learned as a CFO

39:23 How to pitch deals to the CFO

41:38 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Oct 30, 2023

Joe Metzger, Managing Director at 777 Partners

Navigating a career shift can be a transformative experience, unlocking new opportunities and challenges. For Joe Metzger, Managing Director at 777 Partners, diving into the world of private equity was an exciting path to explore. It's a chance to grow expertise, collaborate with diverse entities, and embrace strategic growth.

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Joe shares his amazing journey shifting from corporate development to private equity.

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Craving for fresh, actionable M&A insights? Dive into the M&A Science Fall Summit this Nov 8th! Unlock secrets on integration, valuations, talent retention, and more from top M&A minds. It’s all the ‘how-tos’ you need, and it’s FREE! Secure your spot at mascience.com.

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

05:02 Transitioning from Corporate Development to Private Equity

08:59 Corporate Development role vs Private Equity role

12:10 Seeking employment opportunities

16:16 The efficient frontier concept

20:06 Are you happier in private equity than in corporate development?

24:17 How to negotiate employment offers

26:48 Other things to negotiate in employment agreements

30:47 How to land a PE role

33:34 Advice to those considering transitioning between Corp Dev and Private Equity

34:52 How to transition to a PE role from a VC and M&A role

36:03 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Oct 23, 2023

Chris Evans, Experienced M&A Leader | former Head of CorpDev Integration at Amazon and Scott Boyd, Deputy Director, Strategy Implementation at Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation | former Head of Integration for AWS. (NASDAQ: AMZN)

Change management is one of the most crucial aspects of M&A. While integration involves multiple facets, from supply chains to customers, change management is solely focused on the employees. This can make or break a deal, as employee retention is one of the main ingredients to achieving synergies in a timely manner.

In this episode of the M&A Science podcast, Chris Evans, former Head of CorpDev Integration at Amazon and Scott Boyd, former Head of Integration for AWS, discusses integration strategies change management person.  particularly the nuisances of change management.

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Craving for fresh, actionable M&A insights? Dive into the M&A Science Fall Summit this Nov 8th! Unlock secrets on integration, valuations, talent retention, and more from top M&A minds. It’s all the ‘how-tos’ you need, and it’s FREE! Secure your spot at MAscience.com!

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

02:26 Integration Strategy vs Change Management

06:50 Definition of Change Management

09:55 Dedicated Person for Change Management

14:03 Change Management Planning

16:16 Most Effective Approach to Change Management

19:32 Common Challenges during Change Management

24:25 Practical Tips for Change Management

26:49 Hardest Step in M&A

33:38 Craziest Thing in M&A

 

Oct 16, 2023

Chris Evans, Experienced M&A Leader | former head of CorpDev Integration at Amazon and Scott Boyd, Deputy Director, Strategy Implementation at Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation | former Head of Integration for AWS. (NASDAQ: AMZN)

In the complex world of M&A, the difference between a successful deal and a failed one often hinges on integration. Proper integration, driven by a harmonious fusion of strategy and execution, ensures that the merging entities can effectively combine their strengths and navigate potential pitfalls. 

In this two-part episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we dive deep into the heart of integration strategies and underscores the pivotal role of the integration team during the due diligence process, featuring Chris Evans, ex-Head of CorpDev Integration at Amazon and Scott Boyd, former Head of Integration for AWS.

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Craving for fresh, actionable M&A insights? Dive into the M&A Science Fall Summit this Nov 8th! Unlock secrets on integration, valuations, talent retention, and more from top M&A minds. It’s all the ‘how-tos’ you need, and it’s FREE! Secure your spot at  mascience.com.

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

06:11 Types of Integration Strategies

09:14 Transformative Integration

11:39 Deals Easy to Integrate

13:24 Most difficult thing to Integrate

15:40 Timeline of integration planning

20:26 Benefits of Integration teams running diligence

25:49 Integration Teams’ Diligence Execution

28:46 Structuring the M&A Function

34:39 Consistency vs. agility

40:10 Understanding culture pre LOI

44:34 Working with inexperienced business leaders

46:59 Questions to ask pre-LOI as an Integration leader

 

Oct 9, 2023

Roy Schoenberg, President & Co-CEO at Amwell - American Well Corporation (NYSE:AMWL)

The healthcare industry is a complex and rigid space where change is often rejected. Any evolution in this sector not only signifies business decisions but also influences the overall quality and accessibility of patient care. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Roy Schoenberg, President & Co-CEO at Amwell, delves into the intricacies of navigating M&A in the healthcare industry.

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. 

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy

Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net.

FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com.

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

04:26 Evolving from a medical background to M&A

07:27 What makes the healthcare space distinct

09:36 What drove Amwell to do acquisitions

13:03 Shaping the acquisition strategy

16:59 Amwell’s first acquisition

22:29 Integrating the new company

24:50 Retaining key people

28:33 First acquisition lessons learned

31:03 Dealing with transaction surprises

34:03 Approaching deals as one of the main principal

38:01 Deal sourcing

39:49 Managing relationships with the counterparty

41:30 Communication during diligence

43:14 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Oct 2, 2023

Mark Rayfield, CEO of Saint-Gobain North America (EPA: SGO) and CertainTeed

Integration is not just about combining processes and systems. It is about bridging cultures and creating a shared identity. However, integrating two organizations can be complex, especially when it comes to managing major cultural differences. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we explore key strategies  for effectively balancing culture during an integration, featuring Mark Rayfield, CEO of Saint-Gobain North America and CertainTeed.

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom. 

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy

Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at www.dealroom.net

FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

05:50 Culture in M&A

09:59 Acquiring a competitor

11:18 Team Alignment

13:24 Understanding culture

15:45 Difficulties of Culture

16:52 Improving decision-making

18:55 Challenges for smaller companies

20:37 Lessons learned from acquisitions

24:58 Establishing strong communication

27:14 Advice on Integration

31:08 Retaining lessons learned

32:49 Ensuring deal value

34:40 Governance and M&A activities

37:20 Success metrics

38:59 Messaging with key investors

40:20 Non-core acquisitions

41:19 Cultural aspect of non-core acquisition

43:02 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Sep 25, 2023

Dr. Irit Yaniv, Founding Partner and CEO at Almeda Ventures (TLV: AMDA)

While most investors have a passive role in their portfolio company, some investors are active in shaping and contributing to its success. For venture capitalists, one of the best scenarios is for the portfolio company to be acquired to maximize investment returns. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Dr. Irit Yaniv, Founding Partner and CEO at Almada Ventures, discusses what investors can do when planning and executing the exit.

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This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom, the fastest virtual data room used to get deals done. FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience to boot. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to www.firmroom.com 

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

03:26 M&A in the medical device industry

04:49 Minority position during Investment

05:35 When to think about an exit

06:59 Getting involved in the exit 

09:57 Working with the CEO

12:03 Keeping track of potential acquisitions

14:34 Finding the right buyer

17:55 Managing exit planning disagreements

20:34 Who controls exit decisions

22:23 Negotiation

25:37 When to engage with a banker

36:51 Advice on planning an exit

38:11 Bad exits

40:29 Other takeaways

42:35 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Sep 18, 2023

Barak Routhenstein, Vice President of Corporate Development at Profile Products

The collaboration between a Private Equity (PE) firm and a portfolio company during an acquisition is a powerful partnership. Together, they create a synergistic environment where growth and value thrive. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, we will explore insights from Barak Routhenstein, Vice President Corporate Development at Profile Products, on how PE firms can provide invaluable support to portfolio companies during the acquisition process, setting the stage for success and maximizing value creation.

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Join us on October 5th, 2023, in New York City for the M&A Science Fair 2023. Dive into a transformative M&A experience that not only emphasizes participant-driven topics but also offers an unparalleled opportunity to network with the industry's top minds.

You can elevate your M&A practice with actionable insights and top-tier networking. The event is invitation-only to ensure a curated experience. Secure your invite today!

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

03:57 Changes in the M&A landscape

04:39 Changes in private equity acquisitions

08:14 Go-to-market

10:48 Deal origination

12:19 International deals

14:25 How PE firms look at acquisitions

15:48 Bad cultural fit

18:40 Relationship with PE firms

20:20 Ideal PE-sponsor relationship

21:45 Managing deal sourcing conflicts

22:38 Approval process

24:44 Sustaining support from PE firms

27:08 Reporting structure

29:54 Advice for PE firms in supporting portfolio companies

32:54 Staging productive meetings

35:01 Keys to pitching a deal

38:46 Approaching target company relationships

41:28 Managing underperforming acquired companies

42:18 PE firms buying other PE firms

43:26 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Sep 11, 2023

Glenn Sanford, CEO eXp World Holdings, Inc. (NASDAQ: EXPI)

For high-growth companies, M&A is almost inevitable. If done right, it could speed up growth and open new opportunities for the acquiring entity. However, it’s not without challenges, as it can also be destructive and destroy both companies involved. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Glenn Sanford, CEO eXp World Holdings, Inc., discusses the art of M&A, and striking the right balance between integration and autonomy.

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Join us on October 5th, 2023, in New York City for the  M&A Science Fair 2023. Dive into a transformative M&A experience that not only emphasizes participant-driven topics but also offers an unparalleled opportunity to network with the industry's top minds.

You can elevate your M&A practice with actionable insights and top-tier networking. The event is invitation-only to ensure a curated experience. Secure your invite today!

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

03:51 EXP’s acquisition history

05:31 Reasons behind EXP’s acquisitions

10:12 Acquiring Success Magazine

14:22 Factors to consider when looking at potential targets

17:49 Understanding a company’s culture

20:13 Reverse merger

24:38 Capital structure evolution

27:05 Managing relationships with the board of directors and shareholders

31:19 Managing integration

36:47 Other lessons and takeaways

39:03 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Sep 4, 2023

Andrew Bilbao, current CFO of Noble Education Acquisition Corp. 

M&A is a massive undertaking that calls for collaboration among numerous individuals. Ensuring alignment with everyone involved is essential for the success of a deal. Yet, with a variety of opinions and personalities at play, achieving alignment can be quite a challenge. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Andrew Bilbao, CFO of Noble Education Acquisition Corp, shares valuable insights on how to guarantee alignment for deal success, paving the way for a smooth and fruitful M&A process.

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Join us on October 5th, 2023, in New York City for the  M&A Science Fair 2023. Dive into a transformative M&A experience that not only emphasizes participant-driven topics but also offers an unparalleled opportunity to network with the industry's top minds.

You can elevate your M&A practice with actionable insights and top-tier networking. The event is invitation-only to ensure a curated experience. Secure your invite today!

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

04:47 Areas where alignment is important

07:03 Approach to Alignment

11:19 Prioritizing the pipeline

14:11 Identifying an opportunity to LOI

15:56 Target Market Competitiveness

19:50 Evolving from first conversations

20:59 Go/No-go decision

25:47 Bidding process

28:45 Things to not do when dealing with the Board

29:55 Working with functional leads

33:41 Alignment with functional leads

35:53 Keeping alignment to strategy

38:16 The hardest part of achieving alignment

39:10 How do you not fall in love with your deal?

46:41 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Aug 28, 2023

Greg Stein, Vice President, M&A and Strategy at Xerox (NASDAQ: XRX)

For public equity analysts, M&A is nothing new. One of their main jobs is to conduct financial analyses of companies and other potential investments. However, M&A execution is another story. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Greg Stein, Vice President of M&A and Ventures at Xerox, shares his experience as a public equity analyst and how his role evolved to executing M&A.

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This episode is sponsored by FirmRoom, the fastest virtual data room used to get deals done. Leave the pay-per-page world behind by going to https://firmroom.com/

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

06:42 From public equity analyst to doing deals

07:32 Executing M&A against the strategy

10:49 Assessing M&A processes of companies

13:58 Trends between announcement of a deal and stock price 

15:50 Transition from PE analyst role into corp dev

17:48 How to evaluate a business

19:26 Walking away from a deal

21:11 Integration aspects

24:09 Potential pitfalls in a deal

25:25 Prioritizing diligence

26:54 Guiding principles

28:08 Deal timeline and who gets involved

30:52 People overlap

32:25 Preliminary diligence as a Public Equity Analyst

35:59 Tips for negotiations

38:09 Advice for people transitioning from public equity role to M&A

40:10 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Aug 21, 2023

Clifford Felig, Partner at Meitar | Law Offices.

International business transactions often present unique challenges that are vastly different from local ones. The complexity increases exponentially when these transactions involve mergers and acquisitions (M&A). 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Clifford Felig, Partner at Meitar Law Offices, discusses the challenges of cross-border deals, particularly in Isreal, where he had most of his experiences.

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy. If you’re looking to improve your in-house training, we have corporate training plans provided. Give your team members access to the best in class courses, templates, and networking opportunities in the industry. Our academy was designed to lead practitioners with the outdo with the M&A practices. It’s also a great way to show your support for M&A Science.  If you’re interested in learning more about individual or team plans, visit this page.

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

03:44 Finding an attorney for cross-border deals

08:01 Challenges of cross-border deals

14:55 Being mindful of the time difference

16:21 Key differences in local laws

19:18 Nature of deals in Isreal

21:40 Mitigating Risks

25:19 Differences in Negotiations

28:10 Difference in presenting LOI

29:56 Key differences in price negotiations

33:33 The American stereotype

36:59 Indemnification issues

39:40 Confidentiality

43:20 Differences in diligence

46:43 The importance of an attorney’s experience

48:09 Negotiating legal fees

52:22 Integrating Cross-Border Deals

53:32 Signs of a bad counsel

 

Aug 14, 2023

Lesley Adamo, Vice Chair of the Tax Group at Lowenstein Sandler LLP,

The intricacies of tax considerations in a merger or acquisition (M&A) transaction cannot be overstated. These considerations play a crucial role in shaping the overall economics and structure of the deal and can significantly impact the outcome for all parties involved. With expert tax planning and structuring, it is possible to mitigate the tax burden and maximize the benefits of the transaction. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Lesley Adamo, Vice Chair of the Tax Group at Lowenstein Sandler LLP, delves into the importance of tax considerations in M&A and provides valuable insights on navigating this complex landscape.

Things you will learn in this episode:

  • Tax complexities in M&A

  • Buyer’s tax considerations

  • Seller’s tax considerations

  • Gross-up in negotiations

  • Net-operating losses

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This episode is sponsored by  The M&A Science Fair, the exclusive event for the industry-leading M&A corporate practitioners. 

Episode Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

05:49 Tax Complexities

07:34 Considering Tax

15:05 Start-up Tax liabilities

18:33 Minimizing Risks

21:42 Stock vs. Asset sale

22:58 Net Operating Losses

27:00 Buyer’s Benefits

28:24 Creating a Holding Company

30:00 Equity Compensation

31:33 Efficient Tax Structuring for Sellers

36:59 Negotiations

39:38 Tax Considerations in LOI 

43:40 Qualified small business stock

48:59 Relocation for Tax Savings

50:41 Tax considerations during diligence

52:21 Lessons Learned

 

Aug 7, 2023

Juan Guillermo Castaneda, former Senior Advisor to SKG CEO (LSEG: SKG)

This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom.

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, visit www.mascience.com/academy

Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at https://www.dealroom.net.

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Episode Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

04:13 Difference of M&A in the US vs Latin America

10:14 Mitigating Risks

14:31 Culture

17:54 Deal sourcing

19:41 Approaching companies

21:02 Getting companies interested

22:46 Dealing with Legacies

25:06 Red Flags in deals

29:59 Integration

33:11 Alignment before closing

34:01 Lessons Learned

35:37 Negotiations

36:27 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Jul 31, 2023

Scott Crofton, Partner at Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

Too often, M&A involves a larger entity acquiring a smaller business. Only a few believe that a merger of equal can be possible, especially considering the power struggle between the two companies. However, a merger of equals can be a powerful strategy that could unlock tremendous value and opportunities for growth if done right. 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Scott Crofton, Partner at Sullivan & Cromwell LLP, discusses the path to a successful equal merger.

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy. If you’re looking to improve your in-house training, we have corporate training plans provided.

Give your team members access to the best in class courses, templates, and networking opportunities in the industry. Our academy was designed to lead practitioners with the outdo with the M&A practices. It’s also a great way to show your support for M&A Science. 

If you’re interested in learning more about individual or team plans, visit this page.

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro
04:27 Mergers of equal
07:05 Managing mergers of equal
09:13 Private deals
12:55 The management team under mergers of equals
14:33 Board of directors composition
16:12 The process of mergers of equals
19:27 Diligence process
20:55 The impact of mergers of equal
23:06 Real-life story of Hostile Bids
25:13 Poison pill defense
28:51 Fairness Analysis
31:31 Litigation
33:18 Pros and Cons of Mergers of Equal
35:06 Time frame of mergers of equal
35:57 Best Advice
36:59 Craziest thing in M&A 

Jul 24, 2023

Brian Matthews, CEO at ITEL

In today's highly competitive business landscape, companies are constantly looking for ways to enhance their capabilities and maintain their edge. With so many competitors in the market, how can a company stand out and reduce customer churn? 

In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Brian Matthews, CEO at ITEL, discusses his value chain ecosystem approach that can drive stability and growth to businesses.

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This episode is sponsored by the  M&A Science Academy, DealRoom, and FirmRoom.

To join our growing online community of M&A practitioners, mascience.com/academy.

Ready to take your M&A to the next level with software made to manage each stage of the deal process? See how DealRoom can facilitate your next deal at dealroom.net.

FirmRoom provides 80% cost savings over VDRs that bill by page and delivers a far better user experience. Sign up in under 2 minutes by going to firmroom.com.

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro

04:20 Value chain ecosystem approach

08:23 Real-life example of a value chain ecosystem

12:05 Emphasis on the exit planning

13:51 Traditional bank exit

16:50 Benefits of an ecosystem approach

18:47 Bringing fresh perspectives

21:56 Ecosystem Playbook

23:58 How to create a value chain ecosystem

30:22 Considering the maturity of partner ecosystems of companies

37:19 Valuation

38:32 Best practices on deal execution

40:14 Transparency rules

42:18 Reading between the lines

43:09 Craziest thing in M&A

 

Jul 17, 2023

Joe Covey, a serial CEO and acquirer, and investor since 1992. 

Matthew Davidge, the co-owner of the NBC Affiliate WVNC (Watertown, NY) and several other stations around the country.

In big companies, some business units may not perform well and might be overlooked. It can be helpful for the company to find a more suitable owner for these units. At the same time, buyers can take advantage of these opportunities to improve the businesses and maximize their potential. 

In this episode of the M&A Science podcast, we will explore the experiences of Josh Covey, a successful CEO, acquirer, and investor, and Matthew Davidge, co-owner of NBC Affiliate WVNC, as they buy and develop these businesses with the goal of exiting in the future.

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This episode is sponsored by the M&A Science Academy. If you’re looking to improve your in-house training, we have corporate training plans provided.

Give your team members access to the best-in-class courses, templates, and networking opportunities in the industry. Our academy was designed to lead practitioners to outdo M&A practices. It’s also a great way to show your support for M&A Science. If you’re interested in learning more about individual or team plans, visit this page.

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Intro 

06:43 Buy-side carve-out deals              

10:35 Key approach to due diligence               

11:52 Unbinding a company                

13:51 Why carve-outs are difficult                

15:41 Conversations with the right people        

19:05 Key things to consider when doing a carve-out

22:58 Walking away from a deal

23:59 Considerations in the carve-out model

26:32 Challenges on the buy-side of carve-outs

27:58 You have to surround yourself

30:21 Evolving the operating model 

34:37 The right time to exit

35:55 How working with an investment bank is different

37:48 Bank process vs. Proprietary deals 

39:21 Key lessons

40:55 Timing

42:14 Communications

43:34 Alignment on post-close operations

45:27 Advice for first-time sellers

47:57 Negotiation considerations

49:59 Craziest thing in M&A

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